From cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Sat May 31 06:05:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Delivered-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Received: from init.linpro.no (init.linpro.no [87.238.46.2]) by e.kevb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC814ED06A1 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 06:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=init.linpro.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1K2Nwa-0000mS-Mr; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:04:16 +0200 Received: from [92.62.33.52] (helo=virusvask.itsjefen.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1K2Nv4-0000ja-Dl for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:42 +0200 Received: from [92.62.33.52] by 87.238.46.2 (e-nough); Sat, 31 May 10:43:35 2008 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE8D4C04A5 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from virusvask.itsjefen.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virusvask02.itsjefen.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4wldnQ2KWw6x for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1203 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at virusvask02; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:25 CEST Received: from mx1.xicnet.com (quad.xicnet.com [207.150.162.180]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DDF4C0480 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:02:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.xicnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C66191B04 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:20:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.xicnet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (quad [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24580-02 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:20:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (89.39.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es [87.221.39.89]) by mx1.xicnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8761C191AFD for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:20:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48411D72.3000406@riereta.net> From: candela User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: [CinCV] Re: Fwd: Announcing Freedom Summer of Code! 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X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Errors-To: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no X-BeenThere: cinelerra@skolelinux.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:10 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) hello i respect your way of thinking but i wonder if it was google who offer=20 to collaborate, you will say yes or not (remember it collaborates to=20 constrain internet, as for example in china). anyway :) i have other proposal. this summer, next to barcelona, in the pirineos mountains there is a=20 summer camp for gnu-linux and they ask to me if you want to make a=20 presentation. its comming people all over europe. it is free entrance. here is the call for participation http://associacio-aoe.org/scg/en/index.php/Call4participation if any of you come to make the presentation, as a thank to the=20 developers, i offer a room to stay a week in the center of barcelona (as=20 many as 4 people, since i have not more room). it will be my way to thank to people that develops cinelerra and lumiera. you could visit hangar (cultural center, http://hangar.org), where they=20 have been giving courses on cinelerra. i hope you decide to come since in barcelona is growing a cinelerra=20 community and give to me the oportunity to give thanks to you. :) Ichthyostega escribi=C3=B3: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > candela schrieb: >> could it be interesting for lumiera to collaborate on this? >> i think lumiera can be a very importan tool for activists and >> mediactivists. >> >> -------- Mensaje original -------- >> Asunto: [hackmeeting] Announcing Freedom Summer of Code! [en][es][pt][= it] >> Fecha: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:12:32 +0200 >> De: Txopi >> Para: hackmeeting@listas.sindominio.net >> >> (en) Riseup Labs is excited to announce the Freedom Summer of Code! We >> aim to advance critical movement technology projects and tools that >> benefit a wide-variety of radical social justice organizations and >> movements. >=20 > - From the FSOC website: https://we.riseup.net/fsoc >> Proposal Guidelines > ... >> * Describe your idea in detail. > ... >> o In what ways will it serve organizations, individuals, and >> communities as a whole? >=20 >=20 > Hi Candela, >=20 > thanks for forwarding this invitation. I am well aware, that, given our > project succeeds and reaches its goals, it can be of some use not only > for indie film making but also for all sorts of activism, because it's > free software, will work smoothly with not patent threatened codecs and > support an effective workflow (hopefully...) >=20 > But, putting our personal political preferences aside, for the project > as a whole I think it's much better not to be affiliated directly to an= y > political organisation or movement (maybe besides associations fighting > against software patents or the like). It will likely be more beneficia= l > to the project, if it is able to address a broader range of potential > users, without e.g. scaring off people well rooted within the media > industry, which will certainly be not amused by a movement to "take bac= k > technology from the monolithic proprietary soft-o-crats..." >=20 > Besides, another consideration comes into mind. Seemingly, the project > is not advanced enough to provide such isolated tasks, which could well > be treated completely within 5 months *and* yield satisfactory results > for the person participating. At the moment, within the realm of coding= , > we have much tasks which are partially demanding, but don't deliver muc= h > satisfaction on their own. To give an example: if the development of > Lumiera were more advanced, you could think of making a special "news > production workbench", meaning to provide some plugins, customisation, > macros, keybindings and project templates plus write a tutorial. >=20 > Cheers, > Hermann V. >=20 > - --------- > Btw: we need people helping with the Lumiera website! >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >=20 > iD8DBQFIJa9yZbZrB6HelLIRAmUiAKDW1vHtazFlnmqjGQkDR08X/zlxaQCeLI6w > BEmc3ED7dfUaVhH8SpZOIqM=3D > =3DJfb1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra >=20 _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra