From cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Thu May 29 05:14:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Delivered-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Received: from init.linpro.no (init.linpro.no [87.238.46.2]) by e.kevb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2948EC8027 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 05:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=init.linpro.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1K1eD9-0002Bg-12; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:14:19 +0200 Received: from [92.62.33.51] (helo=virusvask.itsjefen.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1K1eB8-0001uz-DT for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:12:15 +0200 Received: from [92.62.33.51] by 87.238.46.2 (e-nough); Thu, 29 May 09:53:45 2008 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8038AD090 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:50:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at virusvask01.itsjefen.no Received: from virusvask.itsjefen.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virusvask01.itsjefen.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7FEh3x6JeSMi for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 10:50:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix, from userid 105) id AEEC68ACDA4; Thu, 29 May 2008 11:13:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5DA8AC2AC for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:57:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at virusvask01.itsjefen.no Received: from virusvask.itsjefen.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virusvask01.itsjefen.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gmd4QV12LBnq for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:56:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B588AC2A3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:56:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.8.23] (p5B0C30B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.12.48.180]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML25U-1K0Iad3Uun-0006vc; Sun, 25 May 2008 17:56:56 +0200 Message-ID: <48398C34.4060806@ichthyostega.de> From: Ichthyostega User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.14eol (X11/20080509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no References: <20080523044008.12416.32903.Mailman@init.linpro.no> <30886.149.136.17.253.1211556911.squirrel@mail.emrl.com> <7211754D-7A05-4106-A3B0-0C78FAF4D2A7@xs4all.nl> <1211628972.17248.2.camel@martin-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1211628972.17248.2.camel@martin-desktop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 OpenPGP: id=A1DE94B2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18VRlBCGhbvAc2q0KAmzVkLUdj247UCN++0E27 xy/0ANveXuLuOC+RoC4KaTKWeyEBc7X3+pb4EojwVBGa6Xe++/ HpTrWPvWrFwQuHB7ZF3V+hB4DzVQ1Ja Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on spamtrap X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: [CinCV] "sub-timelines" and "nodal approach" Sender: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Errors-To: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no X-BeenThere: cinelerra@skolelinux.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:56:36 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > l=C3=B6r 2008-05-24 klockan 13:12 +0200 skrev Sami Kallinen: >>> better! I am for example interested in using a more "Nodal" type =20 >>> approach >>> such as employed by the Smoke or Flint workflow. As long as it's an >> just curious do you mean "nodal" as in "rooms", "areas" and "modal =20 >> operation" or nodal as in shake, pd, quartz composer and flame? if =20 >> the latter, it has been mentioned here a few times but i struggle to =20 >> see the advantage of that in editing besides of filters and effects. >=20 Martin Ahnel=C3=B6v schrieb: > AFAIK, this is what's being aimed at. Also, people have expressed that > they would like to see sub-timelines (sequences in FCP-terms). >=20 > Gasten Hi all, probably I could help clarifying this questions a bit :-D (1) yes, internally Lumiera works completely nodes-based and uses pull rendering as a paradigm. We just haven't settled down in any way about the question how much of this will be visible to the user at which point, and -- more importantly -- in which way (s)he may be able to deal with it, without loosing the view of the "big picture". Any discussion on this subject is welcome. (2) yes, Lumiera is planned to have several EDLs (we stick to Cinelerra terminology here). Each EDL is a collection of clips, effects,.... arranged on a track-tree along a timeline. According to the current state of planning and (on my behalf) started implementation, any EDL can appear as "meta-clip" placed within another EDL. (we have to detect cyclic dependencies and flag them as an error, though)... Cheers, Hermann V. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOYw0ZbZrB6HelLIRAgiKAJ0engECfqLNa44Hh2R4hMXikZxRggCg316Q gLdKbHN0Dloq5sTy4gqbhio=3D =3DW3xJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra