From cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Thu May 8 09:27:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Delivered-To: cinelerra@e.kevb.net Received: from init.linpro.no (init.linpro.no [87.238.46.2]) by e.kevb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D1AED05EE for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 09:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=init.linpro.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ju670-0008P8-8O; Thu, 08 May 2008 15:24:53 +0200 Received: from [193.69.32.11] (helo=virusvask.itsjefen.no) by init.linpro.no with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ju66A-0008JU-EL for ; Thu, 08 May 2008 15:24:05 +0200 Received: from [193.69.32.11] by 80.232.38.252 (e-nough); Thu, 8 May 14:09:49 2008 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B888AC03F for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at virusvask01.itsjefen.no Received: from virusvask.itsjefen.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virusvask01.itsjefen.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7xbXKAgpZsDB for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.1.55]) by virusvask.itsjefen.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260C58AC03A for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD949BB42 for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Received: from hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id IifqpnzkVTBU for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipfmv1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de (ipfmv1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.28.1]) by hydra.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3B39BB38 for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [129.69.28.123] (ipfpc103-Gruenert [129.69.28.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by ipfmv1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de (8.13.3/8.13.3/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m48DM85E016889 for ; Thu, 8 May 2008 15:22:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4822FE7F.8010102@ipf.uni-stuttgart.de> From: Burkhard Plaum User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: Re: [CinCV] Lumiera / gstreamer References: <481F6356.3050805@pipapo.org> <4822F743.3050206@elec.gla.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4822F743.3050206@elec.gla.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on spamtrap X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.2 required=5.0 tests=DSPAM=-10.19694 version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-DSPAM-Signature: !DSPAM:4822fba129083225644041! X-DSPAM-Probability: -2.0000 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no Errors-To: cinelerra-admin@skolelinux.no X-BeenThere: cinelerra@skolelinux.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:22:07 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Hi, Bernd Porr schrieb: > Hi Guys, > > naive question (if not already asked here): what would be the pros and > cons to use gstreamer for rendering? Cons: Missing support for frame strides, proper interlacing, chroma placement and higher accuracy colormodels. In short: gstreamer lacks things needed for professional workflow ;) > And then a general comment from a person who actually worked in the > industry: > Please don't get carried away with funny effects. The only video > transition which is needed is crossfade (if any). The only audio > transition which is needed is also crossfade (if any). ;-) > I really would love to see an editor which copes with a professional > workflow and is not becoming overloaded with geeky features. If transitions are implemented as plugins (and I'm sure they will be), you can simply uninstall the geeky stuff you don't want (or one puts the "not so common" transitions and effects in an extra package). The application core cannot be overloaded this way (if the plugin system is well implemented). > Obviously, Linux programmers don't make films (in > terms of scripting, rehearsal, filming). And film makers don't program under Linux ;) > Consequence: Linux NLEs are not > usable for any serious project (which involves actors, story, etc). Might be true, yes. Burkhard _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra